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	<title>Comments on: Blogging against Disablism Day</title>
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		<title>By: Rae</title>
		<link>http://radioclare.com/2009/05/blogging-against-disablism-day-3/comment-page-1/#comment-932</link>
		<dc:creator>Rae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 08:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to feel for the dog watering priest. He probably didn&#039;t know what to do for the best - do I not sprinkle and get accused of not treating the dog as a member of the congregation and cause offence, or do I sprinkle and possibly cause a giggle and possible offence ?
Of course, the best idea would have been to ask the blind guy if he would like his dog sprinkled or not. It&#039;s amazing how many times people don&#039;t think of just that simple thing  - just ask !
On another note, many people think a guide dog is public property. My s.o. has a guide dog. I&#039;ve lost count of the times that someone has petted it without asking, or said - and this is a real corker - &quot;I know I shouldn&#039;t but I just had to pet him, he&#039;s so lovely !&quot; As if knowing they shouldn&#039;t and admitting that will make it ok - no, it makes it worse, you damn fool ! You know you&#039;re doing wrong - at least the little old lady who petted the dog in innocence at the pelican crossing was mortified when she was told how dangerous it could have been.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to feel for the dog watering priest. He probably didn&#8217;t know what to do for the best &#8211; do I not sprinkle and get accused of not treating the dog as a member of the congregation and cause offence, or do I sprinkle and possibly cause a giggle and possible offence ?<br />
Of course, the best idea would have been to ask the blind guy if he would like his dog sprinkled or not. It&#8217;s amazing how many times people don&#8217;t think of just that simple thing  &#8211; just ask !<br />
On another note, many people think a guide dog is public property. My s.o. has a guide dog. I&#8217;ve lost count of the times that someone has petted it without asking, or said &#8211; and this is a real corker &#8211; &#8220;I know I shouldn&#8217;t but I just had to pet him, he&#8217;s so lovely !&#8221; As if knowing they shouldn&#8217;t and admitting that will make it ok &#8211; no, it makes it worse, you damn fool ! You know you&#8217;re doing wrong &#8211; at least the little old lady who petted the dog in innocence at the pelican crossing was mortified when she was told how dangerous it could have been.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 05:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post for BADD 2009...or for any time, for that matter.

That TV presenter episode sure provoked a storm of protest. Like you, I later watched the video and, even later, watched the show on TV with my 4 year old niece. I, also, was first struck about how pretty she actually was. Jessica (niece) said &quot;How does she tie her shoelaces?&quot;.

These parents should start listening to their children...

Thanks for sharing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post for BADD 2009&#8230;or for any time, for that matter.</p>
<p>That TV presenter episode sure provoked a storm of protest. Like you, I later watched the video and, even later, watched the show on TV with my 4 year old niece. I, also, was first struck about how pretty she actually was. Jessica (niece) said &#8220;How does she tie her shoelaces?&#8221;.</p>
<p>These parents should start listening to their children&#8230;</p>
<p>Thanks for sharing.</p>
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		<title>By: NTE</title>
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		<dc:creator>NTE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 05:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was appalled at the outrage surrounding this TV show host, but I suppose I shouldn&#039;t have been: parents can make anything seem dangerous or scary if they present it that way.  (&quot;Cookies... they&#039;re poison!&quot;) As an early childhood educator, who used a wheelchair every day that I was able to teach (in fact wouldn&#039;t have been well enough to teach if I wasn&#039;t using it), I learned early on that little kids do not make a big deal out of that kind of thing unless their parents do.  Many a parent was shocked on PTA night to find out that I even used a wheelchair - their child had never mentioned it to them in their discussions about school.  It became quite matter of fact very quickly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was appalled at the outrage surrounding this TV show host, but I suppose I shouldn&#8217;t have been: parents can make anything seem dangerous or scary if they present it that way.  (&#8220;Cookies&#8230; they&#8217;re poison!&#8221;) As an early childhood educator, who used a wheelchair every day that I was able to teach (in fact wouldn&#8217;t have been well enough to teach if I wasn&#8217;t using it), I learned early on that little kids do not make a big deal out of that kind of thing unless their parents do.  Many a parent was shocked on PTA night to find out that I even used a wheelchair &#8211; their child had never mentioned it to them in their discussions about school.  It became quite matter of fact very quickly.</p>
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		<title>By: ThePickards &#187; Bloggers Blogging Against Disablism (BBAD does BADD)</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThePickards &#187; Bloggers Blogging Against Disablism (BBAD does BADD)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 19:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] disabled, so there&#8217;s no need for accessibility. This is also illustrated by another post from Radio Clare which highlights how some people want people with disabilities to be hidden away from the rest of [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Maria</title>
		<link>http://radioclare.com/2009/05/blogging-against-disablism-day-3/comment-page-1/#comment-926</link>
		<dc:creator>Maria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 18:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing about disablism, is that it is not yet understood, even among those of us who live it everyday! I think of silence of disablism as silence of violence! No mater who perpetrates. We need to find a way to shout it out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing about disablism, is that it is not yet understood, even among those of us who live it everyday! I think of silence of disablism as silence of violence! No mater who perpetrates. We need to find a way to shout it out.</p>
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		<title>By: Ruth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ruth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 17:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the US there are starting to be disability ministry groups  in each diocese, although I think each parish needs one. There&#039;s a need for clergy and laity to acknowledge the presence of pwd and welcome pwd to congregations -and avoid some of the kinds of oversights that go on, like only concentrating on &quot;steps&quot;.  I&#039;ve been interested in hearing other peoples&#039; experiences since the day I was asked to leave a Catholic church because I (in my wheelchair) was a &quot;fire hazard&quot;. Sigh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the US there are starting to be disability ministry groups  in each diocese, although I think each parish needs one. There&#8217;s a need for clergy and laity to acknowledge the presence of pwd and welcome pwd to congregations -and avoid some of the kinds of oversights that go on, like only concentrating on &#8220;steps&#8221;.  I&#8217;ve been interested in hearing other peoples&#8217; experiences since the day I was asked to leave a Catholic church because I (in my wheelchair) was a &#8220;fire hazard&#8221;. Sigh.</p>
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		<title>By: Take 5: Blogging against Disabilism Day Favourites &#171; What Sorts of People</title>
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		<dc:creator>Take 5: Blogging against Disabilism Day Favourites &#171; What Sorts of People</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 15:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: seahorse</title>
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		<dc:creator>seahorse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 12:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Parents can do so much damage. And it&#039;s a real shame when a child shows natural curiosity about something to dampen it with something negative and ill-conceived. I just hope that for every negative reaction to this presenter, there are two positive ones out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Parents can do so much damage. And it&#8217;s a real shame when a child shows natural curiosity about something to dampen it with something negative and ill-conceived. I just hope that for every negative reaction to this presenter, there are two positive ones out there.</p>
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		<title>By: Radio</title>
		<link>http://radioclare.com/2009/05/blogging-against-disablism-day-3/comment-page-1/#comment-922</link>
		<dc:creator>Radio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 12:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jack :) It was kinda the expression on the priest&#039;s face which made it seem unacceptable. You could see him grinning as if he was thinking, &quot;Haha, this will be a great laugh - I can flick water in the dog&#039;s face and the owner will never know!&quot; I guess the point is that he wouldn&#039;t have done it if the owner hadn&#039;t been blind... Okay so clearly if the owner hadn&#039;t been blind he wouldn&#039;t have had a guide dog anyway, but you know what I mean...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jack <img src='http://radioclare.com/wp-content/plugins/smilies-themer/Radio/Smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> It was kinda the expression on the priest&#8217;s face which made it seem unacceptable. You could see him grinning as if he was thinking, &#8220;Haha, this will be a great laugh &#8211; I can flick water in the dog&#8217;s face and the owner will never know!&#8221; I guess the point is that he wouldn&#8217;t have done it if the owner hadn&#8217;t been blind&#8230; Okay so clearly if the owner hadn&#8217;t been blind he wouldn&#8217;t have had a guide dog anyway, but you know what I mean&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: JackP</title>
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		<dc:creator>JackP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 09:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, youze are just saying that &#039;cos you don&#039;t understand the Tombliboos and the Ninky Nonk. You&#039;re just NightGardenists...! 

As for the CBeebies thing, my son asked about the presenter&#039;s arm. The response given (by child&#039;s grandmother) was simply that either she might have lost it in an accident or she might have been born without a hand. Child goes &quot;ah, okay&quot;, not in the slightest bit concerned or horrified, gets on with watching telly...

I misunderstood what you were saying about the priest at first: I thought you were saying that the act of sprinkling water on the dog was sort of &quot;actively&quot; disablist, which I didn&#039;t understand as it may simply have been that the priest was happy to sprinkle all people/animals in the church. However, upon re-reading, it&#039;s obvious that the &lt;em&gt;result&lt;/em&gt; of these actions was to single out the blind guy/people, and make it seem like people were laughing at him, because now not only was he the centre of attention, but he didn&#039;t know why: as far as he knew the priest might have been specifically making fun of him.

I hope the priest spoke to him at the end to explain/apologise for his thoughtlessness - or if he didn&#039;t realise, that someone else could explain it to him. It&#039;s one of those moments where someone might even have been well meaning but didn&#039;t bother to think of the consequences of their actions and their impact on other people first.

On the other hand, it&#039;s presumably an honest mistake, and we&#039;re all capable of making honest  mistakes through ignorance...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, youze are just saying that &#8216;cos you don&#8217;t understand the Tombliboos and the Ninky Nonk. You&#8217;re just NightGardenists&#8230;! </p>
<p>As for the CBeebies thing, my son asked about the presenter&#8217;s arm. The response given (by child&#8217;s grandmother) was simply that either she might have lost it in an accident or she might have been born without a hand. Child goes &#8220;ah, okay&#8221;, not in the slightest bit concerned or horrified, gets on with watching telly&#8230;</p>
<p>I misunderstood what you were saying about the priest at first: I thought you were saying that the act of sprinkling water on the dog was sort of &#8220;actively&#8221; disablist, which I didn&#8217;t understand as it may simply have been that the priest was happy to sprinkle all people/animals in the church. However, upon re-reading, it&#8217;s obvious that the <em>result</em> of these actions was to single out the blind guy/people, and make it seem like people were laughing at him, because now not only was he the centre of attention, but he didn&#8217;t know why: as far as he knew the priest might have been specifically making fun of him.</p>
<p>I hope the priest spoke to him at the end to explain/apologise for his thoughtlessness &#8211; or if he didn&#8217;t realise, that someone else could explain it to him. It&#8217;s one of those moments where someone might even have been well meaning but didn&#8217;t bother to think of the consequences of their actions and their impact on other people first.</p>
<p>On the other hand, it&#8217;s presumably an honest mistake, and we&#8217;re all capable of making honest  mistakes through ignorance&#8230;</p>
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